they will negotiate the final bill from the house and the senate behind closed doors
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Sure, Barney would say that until the table leg named Scott Brown, smacks him up side his head to get his attention. Do you think Ol’ Barn is paying attention now? He knows he could be next.
Yeah, filled with moron remarks like yours. Get a life loser, cause all of you liberal fanatic nuts are history. Republican Scott Brown declared the winner of the US Senate seat. So laugh at that fucking loser, like I said liberal idiots like you and those in office will soon be history. However, you’re entertaining with your feckless BS.
Wow, settle down. And no, you cannot read the final bill. It does not exist yet. What will be in it? Is there a public plan. One version doesn’t have one, the other does. Will everyone recieve jail time if they are unable to afford health insurance? That is only in one version of the bill. The final version will be completely different then either of these bills, so THERE IS NO TELLING WHAT IS IN IT. Sorry, there was no middle class tax cut.
Personally, I think that Obama is deliberately making all the dumbest moves possible. Because he is trying to guarantee that he would be the *only* black president for the next two hundred years.
Hahahahah!!! After the elections in MA tomorrow, we can all sing “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.” I can’t wait to see all the Dems lining up to run against this dummy in the primaries starting from early 2011. It’ll be a hoot.
@172677
what is it with you leftist commies radicals and the name calling…let’s say you are correct…
you are correct about each and every assertion and every one that objects to obama and his health care bill is demonstrable wrong…why do you have to be so mean and spiteful?
if you believe in your cause, and you believe that you are on the moral high ground, shouldn’t you observe at least a base level of decorum?
you believe everybody has a right to health care,
but no right to civility?
@172677
i tell you the pres lied by saying that docs were cutting off diabetics feet for an increased profit over treating the disease.
you respond by validating that diabetics do get limbs cut off?
do you really think i was suggesting such operations never occur? no, i wasn’t. the pres alleged that docs did this for increased profit over treating the disease. $ 40-$50-ooo they get-actually closer to $2,ooo.
you’re pres is a liar. you, also are a liar. a mean spirited liar at that.
It’s unfortunate, but true that many in advanced stages of diabetes, unable to afford proper medical care, must have feet and limbs amputated due to lack of medical attention they cannot afford.
That’s the fact, bub. See U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality… Here is the headline: Lack of Affordable Health Insurance Means More Amputations for the Poor
March 2008
And there is plenty of similar info..all you have to do is look and read.
You spend too much time listening to FOX and Limbaugh. Here’s the deal….it’s healthcare for everyone….including the 42 million currently uninsured and the 51 million currently uninsured. And, it’s deficit neutral…..
It isn’t a Constitutional issue anymore than mandatory car insurance is.
You guys don’t actually know anything…you just spend too much time watching Beck and others who cater to you dummies.
Both the House and Senate bills have been online for months, dummy. What the are discussing is merging the 2 bills. If you are interested in FACTS AND TRUTH read the bill. Otherwise, keep yapping your mouth about things you know nothing about.
Perhaps you aren’t smart enough to read all those big words…….
What do you mean “nobody can read the bill”? Both the House and Senate bills are available online and have been. Do you not understand English? Or, are you too damned stupid to find them? Is it that you FOX viewers are unable to read and understand “big” words of more than 2 syllables? That’s a cop-out…it’s there. Instead of listening to rumors…find out for yourself.
And, perhaps you missed the middle class tax cut LAST FEBRUARY. If you hold a job, you got one. If not, well…
No one is able to read the bill. I’m still wondering if we will get 7 days to read this bill before it is signed, as Obama said. If only Congress can approve TV cameras, then why did he say he was going to air the debates on C-span? What about the tax cut for 20 million americans? What about cutting the deficit in half? The stimulus program stopping unemployment from going over 8%? These are all things that he promised to me, if I voted for him. He has kept none of these promises.
@172677
yes, i know all that i need to know about the bill. more then many probably less then some, so what? what is it you find so marvelous about this bill?
the fact the medicare actuary says that the cost of health care will RISE. that doctors shortages are LIKELY. or do you just like spreading the misery?
think it’s constitutional? have you read the 10th amendment?
congress has looted every cent out of social security TRUST FUND medicare TF& hgwy TF. GONE!
@172677
we do not have to speculate about things obama said. he either said the various things that i brought up, or he didn’t?
i can tell you that i would never think of making up a story about doctors cutting off the feet of diabetics for profit.
“the bill hasn’t even been signed yet”
there is not a whole lot of point in debating after the bill is signed now, is there?
and about the name calling– “teabaggers” that’s derisive toward homosexuals. i think it might actually be “hate speech”
It’s interesting that those who don’t like our President, don’t know a damned thing about the bill, haven’t acutally READ either bill – House or Senate – are the ones grouching.
All you know about it is what you’ve heard….and mostly, it seems, from the do-nothing Republicans and the extreme right wingers, teabaggers and nitwits.
Well, what’s your problem? The healthcare bill hasn’t even been signed yet….so, there is no record of anything as of this time.
The only thing there is falls into the category of speculation, downright lies by the right and a bunch of crap from the tinhatters and teabaggers who believe everything they hear.
@educateyourself2000
great orator is really stretching it. good reader is more descriptive, an orator really should be able to speak without teleprompters, c’mon. are you aware that he uses teleprompters even for something as inconsequential as an introduction? reader. good reader. that’s it.
@172677
the biggest one has got to be that he is GOING to EXPAND SERVICE for MORE PEOPLE with INCREASED QUALITY and IT”S GOING TO SAVE US MONEY!!! he repeated that hundreds of times
i’m not trying to be disrespectful to you in any way, sir, so if i seem overboard you’ll have to excuse me. it-s certainly not personal.
@172677
“it’s deficit neutral”
various lies about insurance company profits never telling that there profit margin, (FORBEs 400) was less then 3%.
saying that the cost is being pushed by the private sector, FALSE. not the public sector. it is, if memory serves, 30% higher in the public sector
so many are denied claims he bemoaned–MEDICARE
is the LEADING INSURER OF REJECTIONS
no taxes! no one will be taxed for this plan. this was on stephanaplous–it’s not a tax, it’s a “fee”
there’s SO many
Sure, Barney would say that until the table leg named Scott Brown, smacks him up side his head to get his attention. Do you think Ol’ Barn is paying attention now? He knows he could be next.
Aint-a-gonna be signed now.
Well, Mr. Obama??? I have yet to see anything on CSPAN. Why should you expect us to believe ANYTHING you say???
Yeah, filled with moron remarks like yours. Get a life loser, cause all of you liberal fanatic nuts are history. Republican Scott Brown declared the winner of the US Senate seat. So laugh at that fucking loser, like I said liberal idiots like you and those in office will soon be history. However, you’re entertaining with your feckless BS.
Wow, settle down. And no, you cannot read the final bill. It does not exist yet. What will be in it? Is there a public plan. One version doesn’t have one, the other does. Will everyone recieve jail time if they are unable to afford health insurance? That is only in one version of the bill. The final version will be completely different then either of these bills, so THERE IS NO TELLING WHAT IS IN IT. Sorry, there was no middle class tax cut.
Well, among other things, you apparently cannot understand the written word.
We’re done. As Barney Frank said it’s like trying to hold a conversation with a table leg.
In a civil atmosphere, one tends to behave civilly. In the atmosphere of stupidity, nastiness and ignorance, one tends to trade like for like.
There is never anything “civil” on YouTube News and Politics. It’s filled with remarks by the morons in our society.
I come here not for debate….but to call these idiots out…make fun of them and egg them on.
It’s a way to idle away an hour while waiting for the mail to arrive.
These folks deserve what they get..and they are funny.
Personally, I think that Obama is deliberately making all the dumbest moves possible. Because he is trying to guarantee that he would be the *only* black president for the next two hundred years.
Hahahahah!!! After the elections in MA tomorrow, we can all sing “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.” I can’t wait to see all the Dems lining up to run against this dummy in the primaries starting from early 2011. It’ll be a hoot.
@172677
what is it with you leftist commies radicals and the name calling…let’s say you are correct…
you are correct about each and every assertion and every one that objects to obama and his health care bill is demonstrable wrong…why do you have to be so mean and spiteful?
if you believe in your cause, and you believe that you are on the moral high ground, shouldn’t you observe at least a base level of decorum?
you believe everybody has a right to health care,
but no right to civility?
@172677
i tell you the pres lied by saying that docs were cutting off diabetics feet for an increased profit over treating the disease.
you respond by validating that diabetics do get limbs cut off?
do you really think i was suggesting such operations never occur? no, i wasn’t. the pres alleged that docs did this for increased profit over treating the disease. $ 40-$50-ooo they get-actually closer to $2,ooo.
you’re pres is a liar. you, also are a liar. a mean spirited liar at that.
Hey, dummy.. What is being considered is both the House AND the Senate bills which have BOTH been online for months…..
They are working to combine the 2….
As usual, you damned tinhatters are so far out of the loop you have no idea what is going on or what you are flapping your gums about.
Google “House bill” and “Senate bill”…if you can read and use google.
It’s unfortunate, but true that many in advanced stages of diabetes, unable to afford proper medical care, must have feet and limbs amputated due to lack of medical attention they cannot afford.
That’s the fact, bub. See U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality… Here is the headline: Lack of Affordable Health Insurance Means More Amputations for the Poor
March 2008
And there is plenty of similar info..all you have to do is look and read.
You spend too much time listening to FOX and Limbaugh. Here’s the deal….it’s healthcare for everyone….including the 42 million currently uninsured and the 51 million currently uninsured. And, it’s deficit neutral…..
It isn’t a Constitutional issue anymore than mandatory car insurance is.
You guys don’t actually know anything…you just spend too much time watching Beck and others who cater to you dummies.
Both the House and Senate bills have been online for months, dummy. What the are discussing is merging the 2 bills. If you are interested in FACTS AND TRUTH read the bill. Otherwise, keep yapping your mouth about things you know nothing about.
Perhaps you aren’t smart enough to read all those big words…….
What do you mean “nobody can read the bill”? Both the House and Senate bills are available online and have been. Do you not understand English? Or, are you too damned stupid to find them? Is it that you FOX viewers are unable to read and understand “big” words of more than 2 syllables? That’s a cop-out…it’s there. Instead of listening to rumors…find out for yourself.
And, perhaps you missed the middle class tax cut LAST FEBRUARY. If you hold a job, you got one. If not, well…
No one is able to read the bill. I’m still wondering if we will get 7 days to read this bill before it is signed, as Obama said. If only Congress can approve TV cameras, then why did he say he was going to air the debates on C-span? What about the tax cut for 20 million americans? What about cutting the deficit in half? The stimulus program stopping unemployment from going over 8%? These are all things that he promised to me, if I voted for him. He has kept none of these promises.
@172677 We haven’t read it because it’s being formulated behind closed doors genius!
@172677
yes, i know all that i need to know about the bill. more then many probably less then some, so what? what is it you find so marvelous about this bill?
the fact the medicare actuary says that the cost of health care will RISE. that doctors shortages are LIKELY. or do you just like spreading the misery?
think it’s constitutional? have you read the 10th amendment?
congress has looted every cent out of social security TRUST FUND medicare TF& hgwy TF. GONE!
72 TRILLION.
@172677
we do not have to speculate about things obama said. he either said the various things that i brought up, or he didn’t?
i can tell you that i would never think of making up a story about doctors cutting off the feet of diabetics for profit.
“the bill hasn’t even been signed yet”
there is not a whole lot of point in debating after the bill is signed now, is there?
and about the name calling– “teabaggers” that’s derisive toward homosexuals. i think it might actually be “hate speech”
It’s interesting that those who don’t like our President, don’t know a damned thing about the bill, haven’t acutally READ either bill – House or Senate – are the ones grouching.
All you know about it is what you’ve heard….and mostly, it seems, from the do-nothing Republicans and the extreme right wingers, teabaggers and nitwits.
Go away.
Well, what’s your problem? The healthcare bill hasn’t even been signed yet….so, there is no record of anything as of this time.
The only thing there is falls into the category of speculation, downright lies by the right and a bunch of crap from the tinhatters and teabaggers who believe everything they hear.
And, I’m a woman….
@educateyourself2000
great orator is really stretching it. good reader is more descriptive, an orator really should be able to speak without teleprompters, c’mon. are you aware that he uses teleprompters even for something as inconsequential as an introduction? reader. good reader. that’s it.
@172677
the biggest one has got to be that he is GOING to EXPAND SERVICE for MORE PEOPLE with INCREASED QUALITY and IT”S GOING TO SAVE US MONEY!!! he repeated that hundreds of times
i’m not trying to be disrespectful to you in any way, sir, so if i seem overboard you’ll have to excuse me. it-s certainly not personal.
@172677
“it’s deficit neutral”
various lies about insurance company profits never telling that there profit margin, (FORBEs 400) was less then 3%.
saying that the cost is being pushed by the private sector, FALSE. not the public sector. it is, if memory serves, 30% higher in the public sector
so many are denied claims he bemoaned–MEDICARE
is the LEADING INSURER OF REJECTIONS
no taxes! no one will be taxed for this plan. this was on stephanaplous–it’s not a tax, it’s a “fee”
there’s SO many