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mongoose47: Everyone needs to talk reasonably and quit using language like “Obama fascism.” I don’t agree with that. Tell the hard facts without saying things that pull people off. I agree that raising taxes to have public health care is a bad idea and I don’t like a bigger government either.
So keep your 95% income tax rate (which is now what the Canadian health care bureaucracy believes is necessary to save their nearly bankrupt health care system in utter crisis,) and their $500 syringes.
Of course we don’t have any laws to persecute Canadians. Obama is the president of the United States and therefore can only persecute Americans with his fascist single payer system.
Yeah, only private doctors and practices are persecuted by the Canadian health care gestapo as they are illegal and in that desolate wasteland where thousands of miles of tundra lie between one town and another, that is barbaric and draconian.
Obama wants to employ a fascist health care system whereby the authority of government and law forces the American public through terror and imprisonment to give their money to multi billion dollar a year insurance corporations.
AND THAT is the “change and hope” of Herr Obama. He cares only for his reptilian billionaire puppeteers slithering throughout corporate America.
Partnership between big business and government = economic fascism.
Health care existed before government health care. Life expectencies and infant mortality rates were dropping BEFORE the government takeover of health care. The record shows that as we have increased government involvement in health care, health care has worsened. Our treatment of pain in this country is downright Draconian as it is in neafrly all government run health care systems.
I am tired of the leftist argument that if one is against government health care, they are against health care PERIOD. It is hateful communist propaganda.
I want health care for all. I don’t want government providing it or managing it. Government has made little to no contribution in health care providing or advances in treatment even though government funds account for over half of all health care in America.
Try the VA if one is convinced government run health care is so perfect!
Hey immature 30 year old living in your parents basement, life is unfair and unbalanced grow a brain and interpret news to include your communist news network
Totally misleading info coming from people who have never used Single Payer System.
We have Single Payer System and we dont have any laws that legally persecutes any Canadians for not getting health insurance from their provincial governments across Canada.
if you believe this potts, you know nothing of either man. Their special interest is individual liberty and freedom. They advocate less insurance and more consumer involvement. If you don’t know what the ramifications of this are then study a bit more. Cost is the issue, not access. High costs are caused by govt intervention mostly, not private greed.
Single payer system by definition gives you no choice, once competition is removed prices can rise with impunity, and you still have no choice but to pay it, especially if it becomes illegal to not have insurance. Poor idea.
they aren’t going to cut anything. Trust me. The biggest expenditures are
Social Security, Medicare, Medicad, and the war
These R the biggest, by a wide margin, R they going to cut any of these things? I dont think so
And as far as taxes, they are already on the other side of the Laffer curve, if they raise taxes any higher, people will reduce consumption, and production, money will stop moving, and the tax revenue will decrease
they are in a box, and they will wait until the system blows up
What the left would most want to do would be to increase taxes in order to bring down the deficit and, perhaps, start paying off the debt. This would decrease the necessity of borrowing money and hold down inflation. Absent the political will to raise taxes, team Obama would probably seek to reduce federal spending, but only after the economy began to rebound, as it is showing signs of doing so already. Whether or not they’ll ne able to cut spening sufficiently enough is anyone’s guess
It cannont be denied that the government is the biggest waster of resources in the world. Everyone blames the free market system, but people wont let it work on its own. The government ensures a company will stay in business, as long as enough money is sent to the Feds. If the government didnt involve itself then the American people wouldnt have to pay for lobbying. Which keeps the cost of all business at reasonable lvl. You dont have to be good in business, just pay the right people.
Exactly. They think, that when this institution, that has been known through out history to reduce freedom and liberty at every turn, can help them. When ever Washington screws up, they blame the private sector or big business. Even Obama said that the housing bubble happened, because we let them run wild. And they were under-regulated. I find this funny, the were already regulated. It was government, who tolled them what to do. This country will collapse in a few years. It can not be sustained
mongoose47: Everyone needs to talk reasonably and quit using language like “Obama fascism.” I don’t agree with that. Tell the hard facts without saying things that pull people off. I agree that raising taxes to have public health care is a bad idea and I don’t like a bigger government either.
Ahh but we can just print up more money and borrow more from China and ruin the middle class in the process.
So keep your 95% income tax rate (which is now what the Canadian health care bureaucracy believes is necessary to save their nearly bankrupt health care system in utter crisis,) and their $500 syringes.
Of course we don’t have any laws to persecute Canadians. Obama is the president of the United States and therefore can only persecute Americans with his fascist single payer system.
Yeah, only private doctors and practices are persecuted by the Canadian health care gestapo as they are illegal and in that desolate wasteland where thousands of miles of tundra lie between one town and another, that is barbaric and draconian.
Obama wants to employ a fascist health care system whereby the authority of government and law forces the American public through terror and imprisonment to give their money to multi billion dollar a year insurance corporations.
AND THAT is the “change and hope” of Herr Obama. He cares only for his reptilian billionaire puppeteers slithering throughout corporate America.
Partnership between big business and government = economic fascism.
Health care existed before government health care. Life expectencies and infant mortality rates were dropping BEFORE the government takeover of health care. The record shows that as we have increased government involvement in health care, health care has worsened. Our treatment of pain in this country is downright Draconian as it is in neafrly all government run health care systems.
I am tired of the leftist argument that if one is against government health care, they are against health care PERIOD. It is hateful communist propaganda.
I want health care for all. I don’t want government providing it or managing it. Government has made little to no contribution in health care providing or advances in treatment even though government funds account for over half of all health care in America.
Try the VA if one is convinced government run health care is so perfect!
When I read your comment (stivender03), I thought “what a communist with a hitler mustache and a yamaca.”
Life is actually fair. Just not the greedy kind of “fair” people want it to be.
Hey immature 30 year old living in your parents basement, life is unfair and unbalanced grow a brain and interpret news to include your communist news network
Totally misleading info coming from people who have never used Single Payer System.
We have Single Payer System and we dont have any laws that legally persecutes any Canadians for not getting health insurance from their provincial governments across Canada.
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That last little bit of what Rand said made me think, “Time to get out of the country”
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Herceptin is being used in the UK! Granted, some have been refused it, but it’s not the case that Herceptin is not being used in the UK at all.
if you believe this potts, you know nothing of either man. Their special interest is individual liberty and freedom. They advocate less insurance and more consumer involvement. If you don’t know what the ramifications of this are then study a bit more. Cost is the issue, not access. High costs are caused by govt intervention mostly, not private greed.
Single payer system by definition gives you no choice, once competition is removed prices can rise with impunity, and you still have no choice but to pay it, especially if it becomes illegal to not have insurance. Poor idea.
Remember Remember the fifth of November.
We’ve already done the math, you can tax 100% of the income, of people making over 200,000 in the US, we still are in deficit
So Obama is going to have to break that promise, in order to raise the revenue, which he will not do
In Canada, you drill your oil, we dont
Obama could raise the revenue & start paying down our debt, tomorrow, IF he got the congress to lift the ban on Drilling US oil. But they wont
Like I said, there R plenty of options, but none that they will do
they R in a box
Actually we have higher tax rate in Canada (for the richest people) and we had 15 years of budget surplus at he federal level.
they aren’t going to cut anything. Trust me. The biggest expenditures are
Social Security, Medicare, Medicad, and the war
These R the biggest, by a wide margin, R they going to cut any of these things? I dont think so
And as far as taxes, they are already on the other side of the Laffer curve, if they raise taxes any higher, people will reduce consumption, and production, money will stop moving, and the tax revenue will decrease
they are in a box, and they will wait until the system blows up
What the left would most want to do would be to increase taxes in order to bring down the deficit and, perhaps, start paying off the debt. This would decrease the necessity of borrowing money and hold down inflation. Absent the political will to raise taxes, team Obama would probably seek to reduce federal spending, but only after the economy began to rebound, as it is showing signs of doing so already. Whether or not they’ll ne able to cut spening sufficiently enough is anyone’s guess
i want to know what the counterarguments are against the pauls…what would obama say about the borrowing –> inflation argument?
It cannont be denied that the government is the biggest waster of resources in the world. Everyone blames the free market system, but people wont let it work on its own. The government ensures a company will stay in business, as long as enough money is sent to the Feds. If the government didnt involve itself then the American people wouldnt have to pay for lobbying. Which keeps the cost of all business at reasonable lvl. You dont have to be good in business, just pay the right people.
Exactly. They think, that when this institution, that has been known through out history to reduce freedom and liberty at every turn, can help them. When ever Washington screws up, they blame the private sector or big business. Even Obama said that the housing bubble happened, because we let them run wild. And they were under-regulated. I find this funny, the were already regulated. It was government, who tolled them what to do. This country will collapse in a few years. It can not be sustained